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	<title>Comments on: Seventeen years and counting for abandoned Ogilvy&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Solowski</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Solowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, Chris. 

A couple of years ago a third year studio - let by Sheryl - proposed re-using this building as a site for a spa. Some very nice proposals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Chris. </p>
<p>A couple of years ago a third year studio - let by Sheryl - proposed re-using this building as a site for a spa. Some very nice proposals!</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed how often I have walked by this building or been in its grandeur without really appreciating its significance.  It is surprising that a building of this stature could go for so long without use, especially in such a hot area of the city.  Thank-you for bringing it to my attention and that of others.  Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed how often I have walked by this building or been in its grandeur without really appreciating its significance.  It is surprising that a building of this stature could go for so long without use, especially in such a hot area of the city.  Thank-you for bringing it to my attention and that of others.  Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Warden</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Warden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Just to clarify, the city designated the three street fronting facades, all five stories.  

As for the Woodwards development, it&#039;s nothing short of impressive.  It&#039;s much larger than Ogilvy&#039;s and the new use is incredibly mixed with a lot of moving parts.  I think the fact they made it work and are building it is nothing short of a miracle.  Although, I am not sure how things usually go in Vancouver, maybe it is the usual Ottawa pace of progress that impacts that judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Just to clarify, the city designated the three street fronting facades, all five stories.  </p>
<p>As for the Woodwards development, it's nothing short of impressive.  It's much larger than Ogilvy's and the new use is incredibly mixed with a lot of moving parts.  I think the fact they made it work and are building it is nothing short of a miracle.  Although, I am not sure how things usually go in Vancouver, maybe it is the usual Ottawa pace of progress that impacts that judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last things that Rideau Street needs:

1 - more mall space, 
2 - more luxury housing

Like the author and those who have posted here, I regularly admire this building and wonder why it&#039;s sat empty for so long (I&#039;ve always assumed that it was a victim of real estate speculation). It&#039;s a shame that the city has only designated the lower facade as heritage, this should be extended. I also agree that ground level retail or other (quasi)public space would add to the charm of the neighbourhood.

While office space seems like a reasonable use of the upper levels, this building could represent an opportunity to recognize those residents of this neighbourhood who are regularly derided and increasingly criminalized. In the nearly two decades that this building has sat vacant, the rates of homelessness in Ottawa increased steadily. Many of the victims of this trend have been drawn to the market by the availability of services and sense of community that exists for them.

These people are as much a part of this neighbourhood as any of the folks who have bought into the recent condominium developments. Unfortunately, rather than adequately addressing their needs they are being pushed out of the neighbourhood through draconian safety laws and insulting public relations campaigns (think &#039;Kindness&#039; meters). This is a terrible way to treat people who&#039;s biggest problems are public perception and the fact that they have no homes.

If this building could be wrangled away from the Rideau Centre (certainly a big if), the space would serve the community much better as a new affordable housing development. This idea is not without precedent. The old Woodwards building in Vancouver (just steps away from posh Water St.) was sold to the city by a private developer so that it could be transformed into a mixed income housing development. A project of this vision is not beyond Ottawa&#039;s reach, but it may be beyond it&#039;s political will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last things that Rideau Street needs:</p>
<p>1 - more mall space,<br />
2 - more luxury housing</p>
<p>Like the author and those who have posted here, I regularly admire this building and wonder why it's sat empty for so long (I've always assumed that it was a victim of real estate speculation). It's a shame that the city has only designated the lower facade as heritage, this should be extended. I also agree that ground level retail or other (quasi)public space would add to the charm of the neighbourhood.</p>
<p>While office space seems like a reasonable use of the upper levels, this building could represent an opportunity to recognize those residents of this neighbourhood who are regularly derided and increasingly criminalized. In the nearly two decades that this building has sat vacant, the rates of homelessness in Ottawa increased steadily. Many of the victims of this trend have been drawn to the market by the availability of services and sense of community that exists for them.</p>
<p>These people are as much a part of this neighbourhood as any of the folks who have bought into the recent condominium developments. Unfortunately, rather than adequately addressing their needs they are being pushed out of the neighbourhood through draconian safety laws and insulting public relations campaigns (think 'Kindness' meters). This is a terrible way to treat people who's biggest problems are public perception and the fact that they have no homes.</p>
<p>If this building could be wrangled away from the Rideau Centre (certainly a big if), the space would serve the community much better as a new affordable housing development. This idea is not without precedent. The old Woodwards building in Vancouver (just steps away from posh Water St.) was sold to the city by a private developer so that it could be transformed into a mixed income housing development. A project of this vision is not beyond Ottawa's reach, but it may be beyond it's political will.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Rob Roy McGregor</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Rob Roy McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great building from the early 20th century. I remember it from my childhood for the malted milk drinks sold at a snack bar and the whoosh of the pneumatic tube payment system with canisters disappearing at high speed to a cashier/office somewhere in the bowels of the building, then returning with a clunk into a basket with one&#039;s change.

Somehow I don&#039;t think it will become lofts, too close to the centre of action and not enough density for profitable residential development (by developer measurement). Hopefully the Rideau Centre will develop it with sensitivity putting retail and offices into the building and not try to build a tower on top of it. 

But after Lansdowne, who knows what council might approve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great building from the early 20th century. I remember it from my childhood for the malted milk drinks sold at a snack bar and the whoosh of the pneumatic tube payment system with canisters disappearing at high speed to a cashier/office somewhere in the bowels of the building, then returning with a clunk into a basket with one's change.</p>
<p>Somehow I don't think it will become lofts, too close to the centre of action and not enough density for profitable residential development (by developer measurement). Hopefully the Rideau Centre will develop it with sensitivity putting retail and offices into the building and not try to build a tower on top of it. </p>
<p>But after Lansdowne, who knows what council might approve.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Williams</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of attention paid to renovating this building into something useful has been bothering me for years now as well, for reasons including those already detailed above. It deserves, like Somerset House on Bank and Somerset, much better than to be left to fall to demolishable pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of attention paid to renovating this building into something useful has been bothering me for years now as well, for reasons including those already detailed above. It deserves, like Somerset House on Bank and Somerset, much better than to be left to fall to demolishable pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always wondered why a developer hasn&#039;t turned this building into lofts.  Especially when there are several developments in the same area that build buildings and advertise the condos as &quot;loft-style&quot;.  Why have something that is built to look like a loft, when you can build the real thing?  I like living in spaces with actual history.  My current apartment is in a turn-of-the-century stone house in the Golden Triangle that was turned into a bunch of apartments.  I have started researching real estate in Ottawa with plans to buy within the next 3 years.  I would be first in line if that building was turned into lofts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always wondered why a developer hasn't turned this building into lofts.  Especially when there are several developments in the same area that build buildings and advertise the condos as "loft-style".  Why have something that is built to look like a loft, when you can build the real thing?  I like living in spaces with actual history.  My current apartment is in a turn-of-the-century stone house in the Golden Triangle that was turned into a bunch of apartments.  I have started researching real estate in Ottawa with plans to buy within the next 3 years.  I would be first in line if that building was turned into lofts.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie @ Modern Ottawa</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie @ Modern Ottawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I&#039;ve been wondering about this building for quite a while, wishing I could buy it and make something useful and pretty out of it :) I think the historical architectural features of the facade should be restored the to pay homage to the past but in a modern and respectful way. 

To me, this building is another (of many) diamond in the rough in Ottawa. I too thinks a mixed-used building would be great, but I&#039;m leaning more toward the combination of boutique below and lofts above (real lofts with large open spaces and height ceiling). This building would also be great for a boutique hotel (a real boutique hotel like the W or Le Germain). 

Hopefully there aren&#039;t any major structural issues after being abandoned for so many years! I&#039;m not sure the Rideau Center would be able to properly take care of it based on some of the choices made on the main building (not pretty).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I've been wondering about this building for quite a while, wishing I could buy it and make something useful and pretty out of it <img src='http://spacingottawa.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think the historical architectural features of the facade should be restored the to pay homage to the past but in a modern and respectful way. </p>
<p>To me, this building is another (of many) diamond in the rough in Ottawa. I too thinks a mixed-used building would be great, but I'm leaning more toward the combination of boutique below and lofts above (real lofts with large open spaces and height ceiling). This building would also be great for a boutique hotel (a real boutique hotel like the W or Le Germain). </p>
<p>Hopefully there aren't any major structural issues after being abandoned for so many years! I'm not sure the Rideau Center would be able to properly take care of it based on some of the choices made on the main building (not pretty).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob LeDrew</title>
		<link>http://spacingottawa.ca/2009/12/10/seventeen-years-and-counting-for-abandoned-ogilvys/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob LeDrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the best thing that can be said about this building is that it&#039;s not a TRAGIC story. Yet. I guess it&#039;s a sign of my cynicism that my mind&#039;s eye sees a faceless tower on the site. 

I love that &quot;beltline&quot; between the third and fourth story. And I would love to know exactly why the building has remained vacant nearly 20 years. The city? The owner? Etc. etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the best thing that can be said about this building is that it's not a TRAGIC story. Yet. I guess it's a sign of my cynicism that my mind's eye sees a faceless tower on the site. </p>
<p>I love that "beltline" between the third and fourth story. And I would love to know exactly why the building has remained vacant nearly 20 years. The city? The owner? Etc. etc.?</p>
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